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Amid tepid returns at the box office for Joker: Folie à Deux, a number of fans of the sequel took to social media over the weekend in defense of the sequel to Todd Phillips' 2019 motion picture.
The film, which sees Joaquin Phoenix return to the lead role of The Joker/Arthur Fleck, debuted to a paltry
$40 million at the domestic box office, good enough for the weekend's top spot, but
less than projections, and half that of its predecessor.
Amid the early returns, a number of fans took up for the movie and
its cinematic depth, in breaking away from the cookie cutter nature of
sequels to introduce a musical element not present in the
first film, with Lady Gaga joining the franchise.
'Joker 2 was amazing,' one user said, adding that it was '100% as divisive
as people are making it out to be. I love that the film didn't try to be a traditional sequel, and fully committed
to the storytelling they presented. It never deviated to be a film
full of Easter eggs or any other crowd pleasing aspects.'
Another user said, 'I kinda loved Joker 2. I loved how it
was structured as a meta-exploration of the first film's fandom and the musical elements were a lot of
fun.'
Amid tepid returns at the box office for Joker: Folie à Deux,
a number of fans of the sequel took to social media over the weekend in defense of
the sequel to Todd Phillips' 2019 motion picture, starring Joaquin Phoenix
One user marveled that Joker 2 is 'getting universal hate despite
being more interesting and creative than anything marvel has done in years is expected.'
A user said that 'Joker 2 is genuinely such a clever movie which carries
the character study format of the first movie into the second in a way which, surprisingly, will floor you by the end.
I'm astounded reception is this bad because this is SUCH a clever movie'
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as Joker flops at box office
Some users said that the bad word-of-mouth the film was
suffering from was impacting the opinions of moviegoers.
'The Joker 2 hate is so forced like did we watched the
same movie????????' one user said, while another said the hate for the film is 'so unjustified.'
One fan predicted that the motion picture with
stand the test of time with audiences.
'I may be one of ten people who genuinely liked the Joker 2.
Remember me when society circles back to it in 10 years and says
its a masterpiece,' said the user. 'The world just wasn't ready
for it yet.'
Said one user: 'I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. If you don't like musicals or 'art house'
style films you probably won't like it because it's not made for you.
The dynamic between Harley and Joker was brilliant and showcased the
'obsession' that is key to that duo.'
The movie's box office collapse was swift and has many in the industry wondering: How did
the highly anticipated sequel to an Oscar-winning, billion-dollar film with the same creative team go wrong?
Just three weeks ago, tracking services pegged the movie for
a $70 million debut, which would still have been down a fair amount from Joker's record-breaking $96.2 million launch in October 2019.
A number of fans took to social media to defend the controversial sequel
Amid the early returns, a number of fans took up for the movie and its cinematic depth,
in breaking away from the cookie cutter nature of sequels to introduce a musical element not
present in the first film, with Lady Gaga joining the franchise
Reviews were mixed out of the Venice Film Festival, where it premiered in competition like the first movie
and even got a 12-minute standing ovation.
But the homecoming glow was short-lived, and the fragile
foundation would crumble in the coming weeks with its Rotten Tomatoes score
dropping from 63 percent at Venice to 33 percent by its first weekend in theaters. Perhaps even more surprising were the
audience reviews: Ticket buyers polled on opening night gave the film a deadly
D CinemaScore. Exit polls from PostTrak weren't any better.
It got a meager half star out of five possible.
'That´s a double whammy that´s very difficult to recover from,
' said Paul Dergarabedian, the senior media analyst for
Comscore. 'The biggest issue of all is the reported budget.
A $40 or $50 million opening for a less expensive movie would be a solid
debut.'
Joker: Folie à Deux cost at least twice as much as the first film to produce, though reported figures vary at exactly how pricey it was to make.
Phillips told Variety that it was less than the reported $200 million; Others
have it pegged at $190 million. Warner Bros.
released the film in 4,102 locations in North America.
About 12.5 percent of its domestic total came from 415 IMAX screens.
Internationally, it's earned $81.1 million from 25,788 screens, bringing
its total global earnings estimate to $121.1
million. In the next two weeks, Joker 2 will also open in Japan and China.
Second place went to Universal and DreamWorks Animation's The Wild Robot,
which added $18.7 million in its second weekend, bringing
its domestic total to nearly $64 million. Globally,
it's made over $100 million. Warner Bros.' Beetlejuice Beetlejuice took third place in weekend five, Paramount's Transformers One landed in fourth
and Universal and Blumhouse's Speak No Evil rounded
out the top five.
The other big new release of the weekend, Lionsgate's White Bird, flopped with just $1.5 million from just
over 1,000 locations, despite an A+ CinemaScore.
Overall, the weekend is up from the same frame last year, but Joker's start is an unwelcome twist
for theater owners hoping to narrow the box office deficit.
The sequel has already been the subject of many think pieces, some who posit that it was deliberately alienating fans of the first movie
Phillips and star Joaquin Phoenix have said they aspired to make something as 'audacious' as the first film.
The sequel added Lady Gaga into the fold , as a Joker superfan, and
delved further into the mind of Arthur Fleck, imprisoned at Arkham and awaiting trial
for the murders he committed in the first. It´s also a musical, with elaborately imagined song and dance numbers to old standards.
Gaga even released a companion album called ''Harlequin,' alongside the film.
The sequel has already been the subject of many think pieces, some who
posit that it was deliberately alienating fans of the first movie.
In cruder terms, it´s been called a 'middle finger.' But fans
often ignore the advice of critics, especially when it
comes to opening their wallets to see revered comic book characters
on the big screen.
'They took a swing for the fences,' Dergarabedian said.
'But except for a couple of outliers, audiences in 2024 seem to want to know what they´re getting
when they´re going to the theater. They want the tried and true,
the familiar.'
Deadline editor Anthony D´Alessandro thinks the problem started with the idea to make
the Joker sequel a musical. 'No fan of the original movie wanted to see a musical sequel,' he
wrote on Saturday.
The first film was also divisive and the subject of much discourse, then about whether it might send the
wrong message to the wrong type of person. And yet people still flocked to see
what the fuss was about. Joker went on to pick up 11 Oscar nominations, including best
picture and best director, and three wins.
It also made over $1 billion and was the highest-grossing
R-rated film of all time, until this summer when Marvel's Deadpool & Wolverine
took the crown.
Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S.
and Canadian theaters, according to Comscore.
Final domestic figures will be released Monday.
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